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sackmail
GuestToday we received DMCA notices for adult affiliate posts for Non-chaturbate posts.
The studios that we received DMCA notices for are all studios that we affiliate with directly, and all the posts were studio affiliate promotions.
The studios should be aware:
SpunkWorthy
Intense Cash
Next Door World/Buddy Profits
Flirt 4 Free.sackmail
GuestFull list of sites that Chaturbate is filing DMCA notices for – meaning content that they don’t own and spurious DMCA notices.
We will be countering them all legally.Cocky Boys
Active Duty
Bristol Boy
Fratmen
Sean Cody
CMNM
Raging Stallion
American Muscle Hunks
FleshJack
The Guy Site
Xtra Inches
Corbin Fisher
Cocksure Men
English Lads
Man Avenue
Club Dean
Men.comBasically, if a studio uses a model that Chaturbate uses (and some of these notices are for posts dating back to 2013), then Chaturbate is issuing DMCA notices against the images, even though they do not own them or have any exclusive arrangement with the model pictured.
DOC
GuestHow can they do that? Is it perhaps some automated system? Have they send those notices to Google as well?
Jach
GuestI agree. Someone at Chaturbate has to Certify that the content they are requesting to be removed is THEIR property.
feedme
GuestYes I actually noticed this over the weekend while I was researching DMCA’s to find actual pirate sites, I alerted another webmaster here of this also, they have thrown a DMCA at 4 of my blogs (some with actually no content), I also noticed today that gaydemon.com also has chaturbate DMCA’s against it so bjorn maybe worth looking into that.
For a check if you go to transparicy.google.com and check under “reported domains” in the copyright section you can see if your site is also effected.
It is also worth noting that just because it says chaturbate it could actually be anyone sending out the DMCA requests and saying they are chaturbate, I know some chaturbate straight models have done this in the past. and the DMCA forms are such that you can write any company in the box when sending a DMCA report. Although with the near 900,000 DMCA URLs they have reported I would assume they would have to be chaturbate themselves as sending this quota of notices requires membership of Google “Trusted Copyright Removal Program” (which is very hard to get into believe me)… As normal google accounts can only submit 1000 URLs daily.
They although need to be careful even if its an automated program doing so, each wrong DMCA can lead to $100,000 per offense in court, just ask Sony, they are currently in court over a dispute with rapidgator for doing this.
DOC
GuestI can see there are a few DMCA notices from Chaturbate for my adult domain however I’ve not had any email from Google about them and I cannot find the URLs in question. Does this perhaps mean Google knows that something isn’t right with these?
In the past I’ve always been notified by email and in webmaster tools but not this time.
Jach
Guestand to make matters worse the only way to get your URL’s reinstated at Google is to file a counter notice which requires your full name, phone number, mailing address and email address.
If what Chaturbate is claiming is true (a malicious and unknown third party has been submitting false DMCA takedown notices) do you want to provide them with your sensitive personal information? This is where your counter notice information is sent!
sackmail
GuestAt this point, I don’t know what to think.
What I do know, is that I sent multiple emails that included the DMCA reports through to Chaturbate Saturday morning, EST. It’s been more than 24 hours and I have yet to receive a response from them on any of them. That makes me wonder? If they were being used by a malicious third party, wouldn’t they be in contact with us directly requesting information? This could harm them as well as us when we counter them.
Miles
GuestBeing someone who has researched the Google DMCA process to within an inch of my life ending the past month, USUALLY no matter what the transparency report of google says, if you have not had a DMCA notice in your Webmaster Tools with google, its usually because the URLs have been rejected by googles systems.
Kevin made a point to me by PM here I am sure he wont mind me sharing, to counter the DMCA you need to provide full real details of your name, address, email ect ect, so it is possible this is a scam of sorts to try and get a lot of webmasters up to date contact details, possibly with the hopes of spamming you/selling your details/other forms of fraud from that point.
But as I have said above these URLs might not have even been removed from google anyway, best way to check is to try find the URL (in lumen, which I know yes has the worst search engine that’s ever existed), and then go a google search for “inurl:the-url-here.com” if its still showing in the results page, google has rejected your URL from the DMCA, it still will show in transparency ect as basically lumen and google transparency are just databases of legal complaints google has received, and its worth noting you would still show here even if you counter noticed.
I hope this helps, but know everyone is in good company, thousands of domains are effected by this, even if the crusade seems to have stopped currently, it is also possible whoever was doing this thought sending a DMCA for one URL would delist the whole domain, so its possibly a pirate/link wheel shitty tube trying to grab all the traffic from google. Google has recently said it will start to delist while domains, but only in cases where 70%+ of a sites url’s are reported, so I am sure we are all safe from this anyway, especially if the URLs were actually rejected by google.
Stay strong and try investigate this on a URL by URL basis for each of your reported URLs…
sackmail
GuestFinally heard back from Chaturbate. It was a 3-line “fuck you” response with a link to the TechDirt article.
Honestly, I wonder about people/companies. I don’t give a shit about the Tech Dirt article, we still have to fight the notices and we still have to find out if they came from Chaturbate as claimed or not. Anywhoo… they’ve informed me that Google “is aware of the problem”. Insert eye roll here.
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