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I just got a SHOUT on Growlr from a new tumblr-copycat site that launched over the weekend. It’s called YouTumbl and it’s porn friendly.
One thing that gives me pause is that they have blocked Google from crawling the site: “Google and other search engines have been completely blocked from indexing YouTumbl for your privacy.” Perhaps they’ll change their mind on this if enough people educate them.
We created an account there for one of our sites a few weeks ago and it’s going pretty well.
I especially like their labeling tools. Their method of tiered content for a specific subset of audience is the best solution I’ve seen so far.The only problem we’ve encountered is the malicious flagging of legal content.
Last week we had an entirely innocent post flagged as “Illegal”, but we watched it in the alerts list to see what would happen and nothing did, it just sat there for days until we got fed up with seeing it and deleted it ourselves.Yesterday we had eight posts flagged as “No Permission”, all random posts including collated content and promotional affiliate images. The posts haven’t been reviewed by moderators. I get the feeling they’re mostly relying on users deleting flagged posts themselves and reducing the workload.
Their system is clearly open for abuse, and that’s a concern, but I’m more worried about their lack of action on flagged content. While I think the overall idea is sound, it only works if it’s being implemented effectively, and so far it doesn’t seem to be. I can deal with malicious flagging, as long as they’re enforcing the rules they set and apply them fairly, but at the moment I get the impression they’re just not screening reported content at all.
I hope they succeed, it’s a good system and they’ve clearly thought about how to layer content and serve it to the right audiences, I’d just feel a lot better if they were reviewing flagged content as they say they will and then ban accounts falsely reporting content for malicious reasons.
As for Google, I really don’t mind the block.
Tumblr was a disaster for adult image search. Sometimes it felt like 80-90% of all google image results were Tumblr, but that’s changed a lot over the last few months and I think it gives us a bit more of a chance to rank for adult media on our own sites.We tried Explicitr, but it seems they’ve already fallen. They started asking for money and now we can’t log in. I think they hoped they could get enough users in the first couple of months and then hold their content hostage, but it doesn’t look like that’s worked. It was a shitty system anyway so it wasn’t a big deal dropping them.
Sharesome was promising too, especially after they added the ability to upload media rather than just fetch it from a url, but in the few weeks we’ve been on newTumbl we’ve doubled the following we had from two months at Sharesome. It’s clumsy and confusing, with groups and topics as well as your own feed. Interaction is low there, and you get an annoying notification in the list every time someone likes a post.
Out of all the options to spring up in the last few months I do think newTumbl is the best one, but we’ll have to see if they get their reporting and moderating sorted out.
Interesting.. but surely blocking indexing will severely limit its growth as it will depend entirely on people finding it by knowing the URL or seeing it linked from somewhere.
So if I’m understanding you correctly, I can post a Films picture that I’ve been given in an affiliate pack, then some YouTumbl user can flag it and me as abusive?
And then what happens? The image is deleted? I get spanked?
This definitely doesn’t sound ideal.
I already don’t like it, asking people to sign up without first showing them what they get. One more email collection bot apparently.
Anyone can report any post for a selection of reasons: incorrect categorization, illegal content, ownership claim, violence etc, which is a reasonable and fair process imo.
It then goes into a list for your review with the date and the reason the person reporting it chose.
You have the option to delete it, edit it, or change the category it’s in (for example if someone has reported it as adult content but you posted it as “family friendly” by mistake).
So far I know that these posts aren’t hidden from my view, I can reblog them again.
I assume others can still see them and reblog etc, so really the flagging is just bringing it to my attention and presumably to the attention of moderators.
I still haven’t seen the process beyond that. We have ten posts in the reported list now, all flagged by someone as either being “illegal” content or “no permission”. These date back to April 23rd and it seems moderators just aren’t looking at it.
But, that’s the problem concerning me right now. I wouldn’t give a damn if these posts were deleted by moderators, but they’re not even being checked as far as I can see.
This gives me pause and makes me less inclined to continue building a following there. It’s a shame, we have about 2.5K followers after about a month of posting 50 times every three or four days.
If they’re not monitoring content it will quickly become a seething mess of illegality. They’ll either be shut down or they’ll bring in moderators to do the job they claim to be doing and go “scorched earth” on accounts with anything reported, rather than banning the malicious accounts reporting posts for nothing.
I can’t say I’ve noticed any problems regarding spam after signing up there, so if they are just after emails they’re not making money from it.
I suppose the reason they ask you to sign up first is because it’s predominantly a website for adults only, even though it’s not strictly for porn. It makes sense that while new laws are rolling out to prevent accidental/incidental access to adult content by those not expecting it that they would make a sign-up the first hurdle to overcome.
It’s healthy to be skeptical and cynical these days, after all we don’t know where newTumbl is run from or who owns it, but it’s already listed as being in the top 10,000 US websites after such a short time online, so they’re obviously growing pretty rapidly.
I’m cool with them having an email address. I think the days of free porn everywhere are coming to an end, and we can’t really say we didn’t see that coming. It will mean it’s harder for us to get content in front of the most eyes, but the trade-off will be that we can build appropriate audiences on platforms like newTumble.
It’ll be interesting to see how they monetize. I’m guessing they’ll go the route of selling ad space and then deliver that to the appropriate audiences. I haven’t seen any ads inserted anywhere there, yet, but I imagine that’s going to be something they’re working on.
I really think they need to get their moderating system properly on track before they do that, though.
Scale — That’s a major problem with all of these new websites where they try to grow and capture all of Tumblr’s adult audiences but they don’t think through the scaling that needs to be done on multiple fronts. Scaling of technology, scaling of interface, scaling of mobile, scaling of moderation, etc.
Monetization — I don’t see any monetization options of YouTumblr besides a donation button, so I honestly don’t see any sustainability. They can’t run regular ads next to adult content.
Another option is newtumbl.com. Their rating system is pretty good (but annoying to memorize and apply).
Argh!
After all that writing and discussion I only just noticed that the op was talking about YouTumbl, and not NewTumbl
Please apply everything I’ve written here to NewTumbl instead.
I didn’t even know there was a YouTumbl. I guess I’ll have to check that out.
