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    Martini
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    a little background: i used to edit and encode videos for adult webmasters back in the day, but it’s been years and i didn’t do much HD, didn’t work in MP4 and never worked on this computer. i used to use sony vegas movie studio platinum either 9 or 11 (can’t remember), sorenson squeeze and some boilsoft products, and results were good.

    i’m part of a small startup site, and started doing some editing only to find that my videos are coming out sort of crappy using the new vegas movie studio platinum 14.0 from magix. it doesn’t matter what i do – they come out fairly crappy and definitely lower quality than the source videos. they look like photos shot in jpg with the noise reduction on too high, with some smearing and moving background pixels. i’ve tried virtually everything i can think of including very high bitrates for web consumption (i’m talking 20 Mbps), single pass and dual pass, and so on and so on. results are always crappy.

    i’m using MainConcept AVC/AAC at internet HD 1080 P, as well as sony tablet 1020P, and i customized the profiles differently for each test. my best results weren’t great. i’m not familiar with the company that now owns vegas, so i tried some other free and trial programs. some results were better but not actually good, and never as good as the source video.

    so here’s my question – is it possible that my lack of dedicated video card could be causing this? i had a dedicated video card but a lower spec, older computer when i used to do video. i was under the impression that a shared video card would cause slower encoding, but is it possible it could create lower quality videos?

    thanks!

    #3642 Reply
    Raxxer
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    First, I’m no expert… but…

    I wouldn’t think so. The only thing it might do is borrow ram from the video card during rendering… which wouldnt affect the end quality.

    I think to answer this, people should know what you’re doing to the video. ie, if you’re running it thru a MagicBullet or HitFilm filter/effect… these will often leave your end HD product grainy whereas the original is not since it doesn’t have those added.

    Also, can you copy and paste your Template info so we know what has been changed? By default, Internet 1080p should be:

    “Use this setting to create an MP4 (AVC/AAC) file for progressive internet downloads.
    Audio: 192 Kbps, 48,000 Hz, 16 Bit, Stereo, AAC
    Video: 29.970 fps, 1920×1080 Progressive, YUV, 12 Mbps
    Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000”

    #3643 Reply
    Martini
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    all i’m doing is a little cropping, joining, and on some added a graphic transparent watermark and a splash screen.

    by now i’ve customized the template at least two dozen ways. i’ve worked with a constant bitrate of 6 Mbps and 8 Mbps, tried a two pass in both variable and constant. i tried the deblocking filter, tried the variable bitrate at a variety of max and average rates, none under 8 Mbps.

    #3644 Reply
    ridestoke
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    The one thing that stood out when you said it, “cropping.” However, I’m not familiar with your software.

    I’ve rarely seen quality retained when cropping. Instead of cropping, I will use the zoom tool (pan).

    #3645 Reply
    Martini
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    i used the wrong word – do i mean splitting? i meant cutting off the parts of the video where the director is talking.

    #3646 Reply
    ridestoke
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    Ah, cutting, editing. When I have a good scene that I had to coach the models through, essentially talking through the scene, yes, I’ll split the audio from video and dub over.

    I’m inclined to agree with britton, it’s not your video card. I render at 30mbps, then run through handbrake.

    I use both Adobe Premiere and Corel Visual Studio. Depends on which producer I get the content from. They all film with different equipment.

    Take a peek at the video without the watermark.

    Also, it could be something as simple as you are using “sharpness” and set to high.

    #3647 Reply
    DOC
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    Adobe Premiere gives very good results but required a subscription to Adobe unfortunately.

    #3648 Reply
    Martini
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    i never would set sharpness too high, and the videos without the watermark look exactly the same as the videos with the watermark.

    so far i’ve had the same poor results in several programs including two i used to use. these videos were shot with a samsung galaxy S7 (they’re trying to be discreet) and i keep wondering if that’s the problem. the original videos look good – better than many i see in sites – but so far editing and encoding has been an exercise in frustration.

    i think i’ll whip out my canon today, shoot a couple minutes of video and see how it edits.

    i’m not worried about the $20 subscription, but i can’t use the trial as i downloaded it, opened it up and didn’t bother to try it months before.

    i used to get beautiful video out of vegas movie studio, and yesterday after getting poor results out of it for several days, i also tried cyberlink power director, wondershare filmora, video pad, VSDC free editor and movie maker (ugh!), and results were always sort of crappy although not always the same. it’s gotta be either something weird i don’t know about the source video or my computer. i’m no video pro, but i never ran into this issue before…

    #3649 Reply
    Raxxer
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    Vegas has actually improved since selling from Sony so I dont think that is the issue. Are you changing video containers and specs? Are the beautiful originals also mp4 1080p and same frame rate as your rendered product?

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