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  • #1716 Reply
    flodd74
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    Hello,

    first of I’m sorry but I’m just contractor for this particular adult site so I’m not allowed to give the name. I really hate doing that but the owner asked for that I have to say “yes sir”.

    The site we are talking about used to get between 98,000 to 105,000 daily hits from Google. Overnight we’ve lost everything. No BH or anything else. Just pure google traffic. Most of the traffic was coming from the keyword “sitename”. Not the domain name but just the name itself. Like looking for “mradultaffiliate” on google. This morning I noticed that this keyword no longer shows the name of the site and this name is not present in the first pages.

    The site is correctly indexed in google. The tools I have used don’t show any sort of penalty.

    Instead of the real site a bunch of weird site appearing the SERP, like using the keyword “mradultaffiliate” and getting

    tubesite.com/profiles/mradultaffiliate.com.html
    tubesite2.com/profiles/mradultaffiliate.com.html

    as first results.

    How can we fix this issue?

    Thanks in advance.

    #1717 Reply
    geekyzone
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    I’m afraid without an actual site to look at and study you’re unlikely to get any really useful information. It could be any of a thousand things really.

    I had a problem recently where one of my sites was being outranked for my site name and my site actually ranked about 11th. It turned out to be an architecture problem where I was giving one sub-section lots of link juice from the main section, but that sub-section wasn’t sending it back.

    #1718 Reply
    jaredl
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    If an estabished adult site doesn’t rank for it’s own name, then there’s a penalty. Manual penalties are noted in Webmaster Tools. If you don’t see that, then it’s some sort of algorithmic penalty. With Panda just out – I’d start my thinking along those lines, though it seems it started a week after Panda – so maybe not.

    Another option is that you’ve done something stupid and googlebot can’t access your site or thinks you don’t want your site indexed. Check your robots.txt file. But usually problems like that happen over a few days, not overnight (been there, done that – ).

    And BTW, please don’t use the word “hit” – it doesn’t have an actual meaning. Are you talking about visits? (New visits or all visits?) Or are you talking about page hits? Or are you talking about unique visitors? In another thread you said you went from 105K “hits” to 6K “hits”. That makes me think you’re looking at “all visits” (or “sessions” as Google now calls them).

    Google traffic is mostly new visitors – on my sites it’s about 2/3rds new visitors overall, and 3/4 new visitors for blogs. If you’re at 6% returning visitors then that’s extremely low and it indicates that the site in question is a “low quality” site. Panda’s purpose in life is to weed out low quality sites – so it would seem Panda did its job in your case.

    #1719 Reply
    flodd74
    Guest

    This morning the website has been banned from Google and the manual actions I read

    “Cloaking and/or sneaky redirects
    Some pages on this site appear to be cloaking (displaying different content to human users than are shown to search engines) or redirecting users to a different page than Google saw. Learn more.”

    Obviously the site doesn’t contain any redirect. Probably it’s just the script that keeps track of traffic. I’ve written a long review letter where I explain how things on the site work. I’ve also added the check result with some tools that report the site as “cloaking free”.

    How long does this step usually take? Hours? Days? Weeks? The problem is clearly a false positive.

    Btw I went from 105.000 daily visits from Google to 0.

    Thanks!

    #1720 Reply
    jaredl
    Guest

    That’s pretty serious. You’re doing something that is considered “black hat”. You’ve just lost all trust with Google. Assuming the bulk of your (good) traffic come from Google – you’re sorta screwed.

    Based on what you said below I don’t think you really understand the nature of your penalty. What they’re saying is that you are not showing the same exact thing to googlebot that you show to regular users. That’s a HUGE no-no.

    “Obviously the site doesn’t contain any redirect.”

    Obviously? We don’t know what site it is. Nothing is obvious – especially from someone who gets slapped with a manual cloaking penalty.

    “Probably it’s just the script that keeps track of traffic.”

    Describe the script. Chances are you need to robots exclude all pages where it’s used.

    But I can’t see a traffic script causing a cloaking penalty unless the script sends googlebot one place and regular visitors another place.

    “I’ve written a long review letter where I explain how things on the site work. I’ve also added the check result with some tools that report the site as “cloaking free”.

    How long does this step usually take? Hours? Days? Weeks? The problem is clearly a false positive.

    Btw I went from 105.000 daily visits from Google to 0.”

    What you’ve done isn’t good enough. The ban will continue. Google wants to see that you’ve fixed the problem. They will not lift the ban just because you say what you did should be OK. They don’t care what you think. They’ve had a real, live person look at your site and they’ve determined what you’re doing is black hat. Find the problem, get rid of it completely, and apologize profusely and promise to never do anything like that again.

    #1721 Reply
    flodd74
    Guest

    But the problems is that’s simply not true! The site is the same.
    It’s like someone says that you have 3 eyes… go in front of one mirror and you double check… and you see that you have just two eyes!

    The problem is that I can’t do anything just because there is nothing to change. I’m sure it’s just a mistake. I’ve checked the site with many tools to check cloaking and all of them listed the site as clean.

    #1722 Reply
    msm
    Guest

    Just wondering, why not tell us what the site in question is?

    I never understood all the secrecy on these boards. Maybe you are overlooking something that is plain obvious to an outsider.

    #1723 Reply

    As mentioned, it is really not possible for anyone here to give you any advice on this unless you can tell us the domain.

    The fact of the matter is that with the limited information you have given, we would have to go on that information and say what everyone else here is saying; there is something on that site that Google has decided is black hat and deceptive to them and the searcher.

    It does not have to be something you have just changed in the last week, or month, or even year. Google is always updating methods of gathering information about the sites it indexes, and it could simply be that a new change they have rolled out has become better at discovering something that you have been doing on that site for years.

    Given the limited information we have, it seems to me (and probably others here too) that you have been using a black hat method to present different information to Google than you do to your adult site visitors, and they have caught on to that and punished you for it. Unfortunately, trying to get any help from Google about this is going to be nearly impossible. If you are not willing to share the domain with anyone, your best bet of going to the community there for help or advice is no longer an option.

    I think you need to make a choice; either share the domain and hope people can help you out of kindness, or you pay a pretty big chunk of cash to someone to try to find out what the problem really is. If you argue with Google that they are wrong and do nothing to fix the problem, they will eventually stop looking at your problem completely. You could get to the point where you do eventually work out that it is something on the site, but Google has already dismissed you entirely and stopped responding.

    #1724 Reply
    jaredl
    Guest

    Or someone filed a complaint against your site and they looked and didn’t like what they saw. One of my sites used to be scraped by another site. When googlebot went to the site they saw my content, but when a visitor clicked on the listing in the SERPs they got different content. My guess is you have something like that on your site. It evaded detection, but your time is up.

    I’d also mention that this penalty will most likely affect all your other sites as well. Google spends a great deal of energy determining who owns what and who manages what. You as a webmaster are now part of a “bad neighborhood” and if you don’t get yourself out of it quickly Google will assume similar things are going on with your other sites as well and you’ll start seeing traffic on them falling. Trust is a big deal with Google, and they no longer trust you.

    #1725 Reply
    flodd74
    Guest

    Yes but the problem is how to tell Google that everything is ok. I really can understand your point when I say that it’s not possible that googlebot sees a different site than a normal user. If my page shows “hello world!” for google it doesn’t show “hello moon!” for the human users.

    The only thing could change between human and google is the skim.

    SE traffic – > 100% to videos
    direct traffic -> 100% to videos
    bookmarks -> 100% to videos
    traffic coming trades -> 80% to videos

    That’s the only possible difference on the site. But if Google starts considering that as cloaking all cj tube, tgp, mgp, toplist would be banned. That’s not the case.

    Thanks

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